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Li-Ion Reference
« on: October 30, 2005, 06:03:55 PM »
This is a very interesting topic - thanks to all of you for your participation, especially AW.  That's why I hereby designate this thread as a Sticky Thread.  arewethereyetdad


Hi everyone!

I was trying to compile a list of the standard batteries with their Li-Ion counterpart (ex. AA = 14500). Does anybody have a quick one on hand?

Sincerely,

Shaman
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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2005, 09:46:00 PM »
***AW'S Li-Ion BATTERY REFERENCE***
UPDATED 4 MARCH 2007

10220 = 1/2AAA (AAA diameter but 1/2 the length)
10280 = N cell - AAA diameter but N length (note: thinner than an N cell) 
10440 = AAA
14250 = 1/2 AA
14270 = AA diameter but CR2 length
14430 = "short AA" (AA diameter but 7mm shorter than an AA cell)
14500 = AA
15266 = CR2
15270 = CR2
16340 = CR123A
17335 = CR123A
17670 = 2 X CR123A, Pila 168S / new Pila 600S
17500 = Pila 150S / new Pila 300S
18650 = Pila 168A / new Pila 600P
18500 = Pila 150A / new Pila 300P

**The physical sizes are actually indicated
by the number of the cell. Such as :

14500 reads 14mm ( dia ) X 50 mm ( length ) X 0 ( 0 indicates a cylindrical cell )
18650 reads 18mm X 65mm cylindrical cell
17670 reads 17mm X 67mm cylindrical cell
To keep the 5 digit numbering system, the '0' (indicating cylindrical cell)is omitted:
15266 = 15mm X 26.6mm
17335 = 17mm X 33.5mm

The level on protection depends on the PCB
itself ( the 14mm, 16mm has different spec. than the 17 & 18mm ).
- over current cutoff is 4.5A +/- 0.5A for the 17/18mm cells ; 1.5A for the RCR2;
- overcharging is set to 4.35V;
- low voltage cutoff is 2.4V;
- all the protected cells I offer have PTC thermal protection built-in.
(4 March 2007 - AW has some newer cells where specifications may have changed)

The slightly larger diameter is due to the PCB connecting
strip running along side of the body. For the RCR2, the
outside diameter is the same with a regular CR123A if you
peel off the outer sticker label.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2007, 10:29:02 AM by Geologist »

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2005, 10:38:31 PM »
Thanks AW!

I appreciate the info. I haven't had the pleasure of doing business with you, but from all that I have heard it is nothing but the best! Hopefully in the not-so-distant future I'll can get an order up.

Sincerely,

Shaman

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2005, 11:51:02 PM »
Here's another:

14500 = AA

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2005, 12:58:41 AM »
Thanks msmart2k!

I wasn't positive about that one when I posted it, thanks for the assurance. I hope to put one of the 14500 into a MMMag powering some sammy...

Sincerely,

Shaman

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2005, 05:30:10 PM »
10280 = N cell
10440 = AAA
14250 = 1/2 AA
14270 = **
14430 = **
14500 = AA
15266 = CR2
16340 = CR123A
17335 = CR123A
17670 = 2 X CR123A, Pila 168S
17500 = Pila 150S
18650 = Pila 168A
18500 = Pila 150A

Just a clarification - I am assuming that these numbers only refer to cell size but not volatage or chemistry - is that correct?
Dragon, Ti, and Classic Chammies, Blk, Bare, & Brass LCs, Blk & Bare LHs, X990, Rayzorlite, The Torch, Mag85, MagGH24, SF C3, C2, 6P, G2, & Winelights, Peak Caribbean, Pacific, McKinnleys, + more , Exolion Ti, Orb Raw NS, SS Gatlight, Eternalights, Nuwai QIII, Inova X5THAs, X1, ARCs, + more?

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2005, 06:49:21 PM »
AW, out of those you listed what do you have on hand?
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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2005, 03:32:13 AM »
Geo : They are size reference only. LiIon chemistry remains the same i.e 3.7V nominal

nemul : I have them all in stock ( except 14250 and 14430 ).

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2005, 01:16:23 AM »
AW - one other question  (this thread could turn into the reference thread on batteries)

Can you also supply the physical sizes of these batteries (diameter and length)?

I have an old laptop or 2 with propriatary batteries that I wanted to sometime look and see if it would be feasible to rework the battery packs....

Just curious!
Dragon, Ti, and Classic Chammies, Blk, Bare, & Brass LCs, Blk & Bare LHs, X990, Rayzorlite, The Torch, Mag85, MagGH24, SF C3, C2, 6P, G2, & Winelights, Peak Caribbean, Pacific, McKinnleys, + more , Exolion Ti, Orb Raw NS, SS Gatlight, Eternalights, Nuwai QIII, Inova X5THAs, X1, ARCs, + more?

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2005, 01:31:20 AM »
10280 = N cell
10440 = AAA
14250 = 1/2 AA
14270 = **
14430 = **
14500 = AA
15266 = CR2
16340 = CR123A
17335 = CR123A
17670 = 2 X CR123A, Pila 168S
17500 = Pila 150S
18650 = Pila 168A
18500 = Pila 150A

AW, thanks, that's an awesome chart.  Appreciate the education.   :thumbup:

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2005, 03:50:55 AM »
AW - one other question  (this thread could turn into the reference thread on batteries)

Can you also supply the physical sizes of these batteries (diameter and length)?

I have an old laptop or 2 with propriatary batteries that I wanted to sometime look and see if it would be feasible to rework the battery packs....

Just curious!


The physical sizes are actually indicated by the number of the cell. Such as :

14500 reads 14mm ( dia ) X 50 mm ( length ) X O ( O indicates a cylindrical cell )
18650 reads 18mm X 65mm cylindrical cell
17670 reads 17mm X 67mm cylindrical cell


-AW


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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2005, 09:50:53 AM »
WOW!  Never thought about it!  Way Cool!

Maybe we can collect all this information into a single NEW post, and Troy can make it a sticky!
Dragon, Ti, and Classic Chammies, Blk, Bare, & Brass LCs, Blk & Bare LHs, X990, Rayzorlite, The Torch, Mag85, MagGH24, SF C3, C2, 6P, G2, & Winelights, Peak Caribbean, Pacific, McKinnleys, + more , Exolion Ti, Orb Raw NS, SS Gatlight, Eternalights, Nuwai QIII, Inova X5THAs, X1, ARCs, + more?

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2005, 01:15:35 PM »
Ah, my first real challenge in the sleepy little Components section!  Will do, Geo!   :thumbup:

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2005, 02:07:00 PM »
Of course if ya nee some help using them powers, just let me know!
Dragon, Ti, and Classic Chammies, Blk, Bare, & Brass LCs, Blk & Bare LHs, X990, Rayzorlite, The Torch, Mag85, MagGH24, SF C3, C2, 6P, G2, & Winelights, Peak Caribbean, Pacific, McKinnleys, + more , Exolion Ti, Orb Raw NS, SS Gatlight, Eternalights, Nuwai QIII, Inova X5THAs, X1, ARCs, + more?

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Re: Li-Ion Reference
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2005, 02:13:03 PM »
Of course if ya nee some help using them powers, just let me know!

Oh, you'll have bigger fish to fry in the Mods arena.  It's sorta like Mayberry RFD over here in Components.  Wheareas you've got NYC with Mods.   :laughing7: